Society of Equestrian Artists - "Talk about Art!"

Katy · 2009-10-03 10:17:48

I'd really like to object to what I can only presume is an unintended consequence of the way the rules have been re-interpreted, if read literally, as set out in the latest news letter.

Re: the "if you submit work any year and do not achieve 2 accepted items then your 5 year period will begin again from scratch" and
"if within your 5 year period, you only have 1 or 0 items accepted for the exhibition, your 5 year period will start again"

We now have a set up where if an artist successfully gets all the work they have ever submitted to the SEA accepted - but chooses on the third year for whatever reason (e.g. illness, other exhibition commitments or sales) to only enter one painting... even if that one painting is accepted! then their 5 year period re-starts....

Whilst some of the more borderline artists intent on promotion might be happy to comb through the small print of the bylaws, and refrain from sending that one painting which will send them back to square one on the promotion ladder, I really doubt that the better artists who we'd like to attract, (and are more likely to have alternative exhibition opportunities) will bother with that, they're more likely to just end up wondering 5 years down the line why they never got offered promotion.

Basically if we're using the "you cocked up so you're going back to the beginning" principle, it needs to be based on the number of works you tried to get in but were rejected... and not the fact that you only chose to submit one. It's completely and utterly ludicrous that choosing not to exhibit at all for two years out of the five doesn't prevent you getting promoted but submitting one painting and getting it accepted would!

Sarah · 2009-10-03 11:11:15

So basically what the rules are now saying is that you have to submit, and have accepted, at least two paintings annually, in 3 out of a 5 year period to participate in the promotion procedure.

I think the rule on having 'only one painting accepted' (out of however many you submit) then causing the whole 5 year period to start again is absolutely ridiculous. Surely a much fairer and simpler way of organising promotion would be to use an accumulative points system over however many years it takes... Say, needing 10 points to be promoted to Associate and 20 to be considered for full membership?

Katy · 2009-10-03 11:34:21

Sarah wrote:
So basically what the rules are now saying is that you have to submit, and have accepted, at least two paintings annually, in 3 out of a 5 year period to participate in the promotion procedure.

yup, they have actually said that part for a while

and before the committee has a collective hissy fit, I wasn't suggesting re-visiting that at the moment
(though I, like everyone else I'm sure, have opinions about the requirements, I know how popular the idea of re-visiting that basic issue is!)

I just think that this 'clarified' version, if the committee are intending to take it literally as written, has mis-interpreted what was originally intended so far as the starting again from scratch bit is concerned. (I'm not suggesting that submitting one painting only and getting it accepted should necessarily count towards your promotion - just that it would be completely daft for it to count against)

.....hopefully no-one intended to apply those clauses that way, and I'm just over-reacting :)

Sarah · 2009-10-03 17:50:31

By the way Katy your painting looks great on the cover... shame it's not full colour!

Singing Gold · 2009-10-03 21:53:44

I suppose I have to be the one replying to this as I am the promotions co-ordinator. I won't be popular for it but a reply has to be made. Yes it does mean exactly what it says, it is what the committee actually agreed on at the time the rule was made several years ago, we have just clarified it to make it easier to understand. I know that some people won't like it BUT whatever we do and whatever decisions we make we ARE going to upset someone along the way. We really do have much bigger issues with the society at the moment to be re-visiting this issue (yet again) at the moment. Personally (and I will be condoned no doubt for saying it) but I would make it harder still for both promotions ie, friend to associate and associate to Full. So just so that it is clear..... it does mean that if you submit one piece then your 5 year period will start again. We on the committee (being the ones who have to make the decisions as others often aren't keen on coming and joining us to enable their vote to be counted) are often condoned for the decisions we make. I didn't like the way some things used to be done in the society and so I joined the committee to try to help improve things which then makes me and other committtee members unpopular at times. Try to remember that with out a committee, there would be no society as there would be no one to run it.

Last edited by Singing Gold (2009-10-03 21:55:01)

Singing Gold · 2009-10-03 21:59:24

Incidentally, I was on the committee at the time this original ruling was made and that is how I know what was intended at the time. It just wasn't perhaps as clearly written as it should have been.

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